1980's Ludwig Classic. They have the Chicago Keystone badge without a serial number. They moved to Monroe in '85 and went with the Monroe badge. (Continued from page 2) The next Chart #2 gives an overview of the serial number sequence as it progressed from one year to the next. Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. I bought a 1980's Ludwig Classic Kit a long while back. Beautiful Kit. Eye candy for me as well as an AMAZING jazz kit and conversation piece. I bought them from the original owner awhile ago. I didn't know what I was getting and he didn't know what he was selling. 22, 16, 12.great jazz sizes and they tune up so beautifully. I'm looking to sell them because I don't play them enough and I am running out of space. They have the Chicago Keystone badge without a serial number. Which leads me to believe this was a transition kit from the time when Chicago was closing and Monroe was being implemented. Any idea on a price.? I can take more pictures as well. They are definately 80's Ludwigs. They have probably been rewrapped at some point as Ludwig was using a different patter of white marine pearl then. The pattern they used in the 80's-early 90's was prone to shrinking and cracking so I would not be surpeised if the original wrap on those either cracked really bad or just completely came apart. Since your bass drum hoops have the hoops rounted out for inlays, I would guess that your set was made around 1984-85 just before the full move to NC. In the later 80's Ludwig just used a solid black hoop and stopped offering inlays in the hoops which IMO looked awful! I think your set looks nice but six ply Ludwigs probably won't fetch a ton of money. If I were to guess I might say $6-700 bucks max. Iam almost certain that your drums should have been rewrapped at some point and depending on the wrap job and how good the job has held up can also affect the price. Good luck and welcome! -Kurt Edited by wflkurt, 04 April 2013 - 01:29 PM. Mgarr, Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ' The pre-serial badge is gonna be 1985. Started back up with them in '86 ' Mudjacker2, Now that this conversation has gone on for a bit, I seem to remember something about the large gold Keystone not having serial numbers for a while. What are the years on that again, and when did large gold keystone badge production start? Elvis This is a transition badge and it was used starting sometime in 84 and most of 85. They moved to Monroe in '85 and went with the Monroe badge, which had serials. I think some of the trans badges might have had serials too. About 1900-1919 The start of the Ludwig Drum Company, and 'The Most Famous Name on Drums' • 1909 – William F. & Theobald Ludwig Founds Ludwig & Ludwig Drum Company. • 1909 – Ludwig makes the first Ludwig Bass Drum Pedal. • 1911 – Ludwig introduces their first Timpani model. • 1918 – Theobald Ludwig passes in the Great Flu Epidemic. 1920-1929 A decade of innovation for both Drum Set and Concert Percussion • Ludwig introduces Black Beauty Snare Drums - one of the most sought after snare drum sounds in the recording industry. Black Beauty Snare Drums are still produced today and sold around the world. • Ludwig introduces Balanced Action Timpani. • Ludwig introduces the Gold Triumphal Snare Drum. About 1940-1949 WFL Drums supports the war efforts and starts a new era in marketing. • Early to Mid-40’s – Due to the war efforts and shortages of metal, WFL Drum Company makes drums with wooden hoops, lugs and rope tension or drums with only 10% metal content. • 1947 - Ludwig produces first post war catalog featuring Buddy Rich on the cover. 1950-1959 A decade of mergers and acquisitions sets up the future.
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